: r/USMCboot. Or just give up and wait for a couple of years? I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. I had the surgery in august of 2014. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. By logging into your account, you agree to our. LASIK Surgery Checklist. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. May 6, 2020. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. and our Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History See Article 83 UCMJ. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . Lying will. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. For more information, please see our You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. They said "No problem, we'll work around it." Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). What's the deal? Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. Unless you know it's a legitimate issue that impairs your physical and/or mental ability to carry out your duties, don't say a thing. Press J to jump to the feed. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. What should I do. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Disclose EVERYTHING. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. Sometimes Its in medical professionals best interests to lie. Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. Sounds about like what I figured. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. After a few more weeks, the doctors determined he did not actually have EIA, but was experiencing panic attacks and anxiety which subconsciously manifested as physical symptoms (a Psychosomatic Disorder). If the answer is YES, congrats shipmates just got injured or even died on your watch. It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. It was not a mistake for being honest at MEPS, it was a mistake for being dishonest on the paperwork. Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Your Visit to MEPS All enlisted recruits are evaluated at MEPS Your recruiter helps prepare you for MEPS Anything that deals with flying can cause problems with some that have had Lasik. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). Am I in danger like my friend said? It allows MEPS to see your entire Electronic Health Record (EHR). Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. Should I lie/not mention LASIK when I finally go to MEPs? But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it's a no go or not . My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. HELP!!!! This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. What should I do if MEPS continues to request medical records that don't exist? It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. All Rights Reserved. AF gives thumbs-up to pilots who had LASIK surgery - News - Stripes, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. Because the military does not. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. What is the worst that can happen? It is possible to lie about your depression during MEPS (Military Entrance Process). You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . I went through in 2011 after Lasik. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. So what should I do: should I call him and polk the bear? Should I lie at MEPS and if so will I likely get caught? I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. Don't worry, you'll be fine, I had no issues. 27. The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. I have been 100% honest with my paperwork. It's sometimes better to keep your trap shut and deal with possible consequences later. The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. Messages. Here is the Press Release. Same with another section. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. Should I start applying scar reducing cream to make it less noticeable? I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. And if you don't know what to do, you have no business applying to the military. He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. Does MEPS pull your military medical records. If you do tell the truth about the surgery and wait 6 months for the lasik, you will probably still be able to get a contract, but you will have to go through a bunch of unnecessary shit. The TI took it away from him and then a few days later he got ahold of it again and was playing the thing on the ledge outside the window on the 3rd floor of the barracks. Lied at meps now need TS clearance - ClearanceJobs Blog You must log in or register to reply here. Make it impossible to lie? You were torn and want to be honest. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I dont really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related Im just a bad test taker. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. As above: the truth is easy to remember, keep consistent and coordinate with others. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. If I were you I would lie and say it's from a camping trip or something. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. No. I'm certain they won't be. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. Im in the same boat, the waiver is an easy one as long as you have a doctors note saying youre fine to be off medication, and being successful for 1-3 years off the medication. This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. Am I? Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. I was at SOI-West last summer. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. However, herein lies the problem. A young woman wanted to join the Air Force and went to MEPS. It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. Overall, I have to say that I am troubled by the way you appear to be perceiving and interacting with the recruiters. . She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. Cookie Notice Nice guy and not pushy. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. Good luck to you. Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. Talked to a bunch of people about it and asked why does it say "no" if clearly should have been "yes". Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". So what are the lessons from these stories? Post by Cisco4711 January 12th, 2010, 7:10 am. If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. Option 2: Lie. Tough but that is what it is when they find out. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. Should I just wait for him to contact me? I plan on waiting the 6 months. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. Maybe mental health evaluations should be more thorough, the guys with physical problems that the Army didn't know about got found out because they were being physically pushed but the mental nutjobsthey didn't get found out til they got to their unit. Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 2. They don't understand this stuff. How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. That's just the way it happens. Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Hopefully by then youll be completely withdrawn from your meds. Good luck to you. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. Any advice? When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. Yes. KUDOS! For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. Below are abstractions of a true stories. Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. She joined the army and just before graduating AIT she decided the Army wasn't for her (I told her not to do it, but did she listen? She wanted to get out so bad she went full retard, doing something dishonorable to get thrown out on a general discharge. My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The largest military subreddit on reddit. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. 1. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Never got caught. What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ? 4,250. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. Second, you state that the ORs are pushing you to lie. So we met a few days later and met his shadow that will be taking his place and filled out all the medical paperwork. MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. If you are 100% sure that both are non-issues and you can perform without them holding you back, then just don't mention it. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. He told me not to worry about it and say "no". Just something to think of. They are looking for consistency". If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. You are using an out of date browser. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. She went to the SGTs and the Chaplin professing that she lied at MEPs. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. Do not encourage lying. Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. This is my reaction as I am. ", he thought the answer was "No" because his cousin was the one getting counseling and he hadn't been diagnosed. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. My friend says I might be in danger for being honest. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. One new winner* is announced every week! 48.8K. 73. lie at MEPS? I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. 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